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I've been wondering if anybody out there has any stats on the F4U-4 during WW2 as far as sorties flown, total kills (land based and carrier), bomb tonnage dropped etc. Thanks!
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Somebody might have something. But we mostly discuss the P-39 here.
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Tkdog said:
Somebody might have something. But we mostly discuss the P-39 here.
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Old Crow said:
I've been wondering if anybody out there has any stats on the F4U-4 during WW2 as far as sorties flown, total kills (land based and carrier), bomb tonnage dropped etc. Thanks!
There should be the USN statistical paper (that name escapes me) for the ww2 air combat, including kills/losses etc.
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The first F4U-4 lost, all including accident, was 25th march 1945 the last the 14th august 1945, this show that this model had not a huge impact on the war
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Old Crow said:
I've been wondering if anybody out there has any stats on the F4U-4 during WW2 as far as sorties flown, total kills (land based and carrier), bomb tonnage dropped etc. Thanks!
It gave the FAA one of their two only VCs in WW2.
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tomo pauk said:
There should be the USN statistical paper (that name escapes me) for the ww2 air combat, including kills/losses etc.
This the one Tomo? No need to look at British records as they never flew F4U-4 during the war. CASPIR Vought Corsair
"The Royal Navy initially received 95 "birdcage" F4U-1s from Vought which were designated Corsair Mk. I in Fleet Air Arm service. Next from Vought came 510 "blown-canopy" F4U-1A/-1Ds, which were designated Corsair Mk. II (the final 150 equivalent to the F4U-1D, but not separately designated in British use). 430 Brewster Corsairs (334 F3A-1 and 96 F3A-1D), more than half of Brewster's total production, were delivered to Britain as the Corsair Mk. III. 857 Goodyear Corsairs (400 FG-1/-1A and 457 FG-1D) were delivered and designated Corsair Mk. IV. The Mk. IIs and Mk. IVs were the only versions to be used in combat."
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That one breaks out the stats by aircraft model, but not by dash numbers. The only airplane tracked separately was the FM versus the F4F, and there is no reason for that. Both were Wildcats. Ditto the Corsair. The F4U-4 belongs with the rest of the Corsairs.
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fubar57 said:
…….more than half of Brewster's total production, were delivered to Britain as the Corsair Mk. III.……
I thought we liked the British.
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I thought we liked the British.
WW2 context, Finns hated British, loved Americans
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According to Dean in America's Hundred Thousand, "June 22, 1945 MAG-14 with F4U-4's scores its ninth and last victory. Twelve F4U squadrons have shot down a total of 436 enemy aircraft." On September 2, 1945 VJ Day, he states three carriers headed to the area with F4U-4's are the Intrepid, Boxer and Antietam. Obviously the F4U-4's on these three carriers had no impact so are we to assume that 9 kills is it for the F4u-4?
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If i remember right it's available online somewhere the equipment on the us navy squadron a near monthly report
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Old Crow said:
According to Dean in America's Hundred Thousand, "June 22, 1945 MAG-14 with F4U-4's scores its ninth and last victory. Twelve F4U squadrons have shot down a total of 436 enemy aircraft." On September 2, 1945 VJ Day, he states three carriers headed to the area with F4U-4's are the Intrepid, Boxer and Antietam. Obviously the F4U-4's on these three carriers had no impact so are we to assume that 9 kills is it for the F4u-4?
For the final carrier operations against Japan in June-Aug 1945 the following carriers had F4U-4 squadrons aboard:-
Hancock VF-6 & VBF-6
Intrepid VF-10 & VBF-10 (hit Wake Is on 6th Aug en route to join TF38)
Wasp VBF-86
Lexington VBF-94
En route were
Antietam VBF-89
Boxer VBF-93
USMC Air Groups on Okinawa with F4U-4 were (others were F4U-1 / FG-1 equipped.
MAG-14 comprising VMF-212,222,223
F4U-4 were beginning to appear In replacement carrier air groups working up.
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Vincenzo said:
If i remember right it's available online somewhere the equipment on the us navy squadron a near monthly report
They can be found here
Location of U.S. Naval Aircraft, World War II
Click on the day, month and year (e.g., 2 Feb 1942) to view the Location of U.S. Naval Aircraft report for that particular timeframe. NOTE: All of these records are unclassified or have been declassified. Due to the age of the records, type of typewriter font, and capability of current OCR...
www.history.navy.mil
1942 reports are less accurate than later years.
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Admiral Beez said:
It gave the FAA one of their two only VCs in WW2.
Far as I know, the FAA never received F4U-4s but in any case HMS Formidable's Corsairs were FG-1Ds.
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Old Crow said:
I've been wondering if anybody out there has any stats on the F4U-4 during WW2 as far as sorties flown, total kills (land based and carrier), bomb tonnage dropped etc. Thanks!
The massive U.S. Naval Aviation Statistical Analysis (c. December '45) used to be online, have not checked in quite awhile because I have a well-thumbed print copy. The aircraft stats do not break out models of major types: just F4U, SBD, PBY, etc.
Using the late-great Frank Olynyk's USN and USMC victory credits volumes (privately printed, not available) it should be possible to derive F4U-4 stats based on known dash-four squadrons.
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Barrett said:
Far as I know, the FAA never received F4U-4s but in any case HMS Formidable's Corsairs were FG-1Ds.
How do the two differ?
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How do the two differ?
The FG-1D was an F4U1-D built by Goodyear. The F4U4 is obviously a later variant of that.
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Admiral Beez said:
How do the two differ?
The -4 had an uprated engine.
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